WE HAVE BEEN CLEAR, THE MEDIA, THE ESTABLISHMENT,THE EDITORIALS, EVERYONE IS SAYING BERNIE SHOULD DROP OUT,AND WE GAVE OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE NEARFUTURE DURING OUR ELECTION COVERAGE LAST NIGHT, BUT WHAT DOBERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTERS THINK, THOSE WHO WERE ACTUALLY AT THERALLY LAST NIGHT DURING THE CALIFORNIA PRIMARY? JORDAN, ARETRAVELING POLITICAL REPORTER, SPOKE TO SOME. YOU WILL SEE A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT THEY THINKABOUT BERNIE SANDERS AND HILLARY CLINTON. >>GIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE A CHOICE BETWEEN THE DEVIL AND ADEMON, THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT CHOICE. WE SHOULD HAVE SOMEONEWE BELIEVE IN, SOMEONE THAT HAS THE PRINCIPLES AND THELEGISLATION THEY WILL ACTUALLY GIVE WHEN THEY ARE IN OFFICETHAT MEANS SOMETHING TOWARDS THE PEOPLE. THIS GRASSROOTS MOVEMENTIS SOMETHING THE APPLICABLE ESTABLISHMENT HAS BEEN SCAREDOF, THEY ARE SO SCARED OF US THAT THEY CREATED THIS SYSTEM OFSUPERDELEGATES TO BE ABLE TO STOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS, APOPULIST MOVEMENT. THEY WILL SEE AT THE CONVENTION THAT WE ARENOT JUST WHINING, WE DON'T NEED TO FALL IN LINE, THAT THESYSTEM IS RIGGED AND WE ARE HERE NOT TO FALL IN LINE BEHINDTHEM, WE ARE HERE TO SHOW THEM THAT THE SYSTEM IS CORRUPTAND WE WANT TROOP LEGAL CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY. >>IT IS NOT OUR FAULT THAT SHE IS A WEAK CANDIDATE, OR THAT SHEWILL POSSIBLY LOSE TO TRUMP. THERE IS NO WAY BERNIE LOSES TOTRUMP, IT IS JUST A FACT. THEY KNOW THAT AS WELL AS THE TWO,BUT THEY DON'T WANT THAT PERSON TO LOSE. AND I CAN GET THAT BUTTHEY CAN'T BE MAD AT US FOR NOT WANTING TO SUPPORT SOMEBODY WHOIS THE EMBODIMENT OF WHAT WE ARE AGAINST, PRETTY MUCH. >>WHY CAN'T I VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE THAT I FEEL IS THEBEST FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY? WHY DO I HAVE TO SETTLEFOR SOMEBODY JUST TO BEAT ANOTHER EVIL. YOU HEAR THATWHOLE LESSER OF TWO EVIL THINGS -- I'M TO MAKE SURE MY VOICE ISHEARD, AND FOR ME TO NOT STAND UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE INCOMPLETELY AND TO JUST GO WITH THE STATUS QUO? I'D BE AHYPOCRITE. A NONBELIEVER TO SAY THAT. SO, NO, I DON'T FEEL THATWE ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS. AVOTE FOR HILLARY IS A VOTE FOR TRUMP, A VOTE FOR BERNIE IS AVOTE FOR A FUTURE. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN MAKING HISTORY,I'M INTERESTED IN MAKING A FUTURE FOR THIS COUNTRY. >>I LIKE JORDAN REGULATING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT INTERVIEW. GET OUT OF THE WAY. >>WE ARE DOING IT LIVE. >>NOW THE SUBSTANCE OF IT, ONE, THEY MAKE A SPECTACULARLY ONTHIS POINT THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT MADE OF ON TELEVISION -- WHOIS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HILLARY?HILLARY. THE SECOND GUY WAS SAYING THAT. IT IS YOUR JOB TOFIGURE OUT HOW TO BE PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH FOR US TO BE EXCITEDABOUT YOU. AND THE SECOND GUY MADE A GREAT POINT WHERE HESAID, A VOTE FOR HILLARY IS A VOTE AGAINST TRUMP, AND BY THEWAY, IF IT WAS HILLARY VERSUS TRUMP THAT IS WHY I WOULD VOTEFOR HILLARY CLINTON. BUT A VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS IS A VOTE FORIDEAS. SO IT IS NOT LIKE WE THINK, LIKE, OH MY GOD, BERNIESANDERS AS A HUMAN BEING IS SO -- I'M WITH HIM. NO, WE LIKE HISPROGRESSIVE IDEAS AND WE KNOW HE WILL CHAMPION THOSE IDEAS, THATIS WHY WE ARE ACTIVELY VOTING FOR HIM. HILLARY CLINTON COULDEASILY PICK UP THOSE VOTERS -- IT'S NOT EASY GIVEN HER RECORD,TO BE HONEST, BUT SHE COULD IF SHE ALSO PERSUASIVELY CHAMPIONEDTHOSE IDEAS. >>IT WOULDN'T BE DIFFICULT TO DO. THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS TO GOWITH HER, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT TRUMP, SHE COULD EASILYBE MORE LIBERAL, AND SHE WOULD STILL HAVE ALL THE DONATIONS --THERE WAS AN EDITORIAL I READ, THE MAIN BULK OF IT IS, WE AREALLOWED TO BE EXCITED THAT A WOMAN WILL BE PRESIDENT. WHICHIS A FINE THESIS, I SUPPOSE. AND THEY WERE LIKE, OF COURSE SHE ISNOT PERFECT. SHE HAS HAD TO MAKE COMPROMISES AND STUFF. FIRST OFALL IT TAKES ALL THE AGENCIES AWAY FROM HER. SHE DOESN'T MAKECHOICES, SHE IS JUST FORCED TO DO THIS STUFF. BUT SHE NOW ISSTILL FOR THE DEATH PENALTY. SHE COULD EASILY SWITCH THAT, THEREIS NO HUGE MONEY BEHIND THAT, THAT IS A PERSONAL POSITION SHEHOLDS. ON ALL THESE ISSUES, CAMPAIGN FINANCE, SHE COULD DOSOMETHING NOW AND STILL HAVE THE SUPPORT OF EVERY POLITICIAN ANDMOST OF THE BILLIONAIRES IN THE COUNTRY. SHE IS CHOOSING NOT TO. >>I LOVE THE POINTS OF THOSE SUPPORTERS MADE ONCE JORDANINTERVIEWED THEM. FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE ESTABLISHMENTPRESS WHO ARE DERISIVELY TALKING ABOUT SANDERS SUPPORTERS, YOUMIGHT WANT TO INTERVIEW THEM. MAYBE YOU WILL FIND OUT WHATTHEY ACTUALLY THINK. OR JUST WATCH YOUNG TURKS ON YOUTUBE. >>THAT WOULD CUT INTO THEIR PODIUM WATCH 2016. >>THE EMPTY PODIUM OF DONALD TRUMP, AND NOW SOMETIMES HILLARYCLINTON. BUT JON'S POINT IS ALSO EXCELLENT. THERE IS NOWHERE ELSEFOR DEMOCRATS OR EVEN THE ESTABLISHMENT TO GO AT THISPOINT, THAN HILLARY CLINTON. THAT SHOULD FREE HER UP TO DOANYTHING SHE WANTS. IF SHE WAS WAITING FOR A CHANCE TO BESECRETLY LIBERAL ALL THIS TIME, AND PEOPLE MAKE THAT ARGUMENT,SHE HAD TO BE PRAGMATIC BUT ONCE SHE BECOMES PRESIDENT SHE WILLDO THE SCOOBY DOO TRICK AND SAY I'M ACTUALLY A LIBERAL. BUT SHECOULD DO THAT RIGHT NOW. SHE WOULD GAIN ALL THE SANDERSVOTERS, IT WOULD BE POLITICALLY SAVVY -- THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'TON THE RIGHT OF HER SUPPORTING TRUMP ARE SO FAR TO THE RIGHT OFHER THAT SHE IS NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE. >>BECAUSE IN PAST ELECTIONS THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SHE HAS TOAPPEAL TO THE MIDDLE BECAUSE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN, THEYCOMPETE FOR PEOPLE IN THE MIDDLE, THAT IS THE CLASSICREGULATION. BUT THAT IS DONE, DONALD TRUMP HAS DRIVEN OFF THECLIFF AND MOST GREEDY CONSERVATIVES HAVE GONE WITHHIM. SHE NOW NEEDS TO APPEAL TO PROGRESSIVES. >>IF SHE IS A SECRET LIBERAL, PERFECT. THIS IS THE BEST TIMETO PROVE IT. IT WILL HELP YOU POLITICALLY, HENCE IT WILL BEPRAGMATIC, THE ARGUMENT THEY LOVE, AND YOU WILL GET TO SHOWYOUR TRUE NATURE, AND REAL PROGRESSIVES MIGHT BE LIKE, YOUKNOW WHAT? ALL RIGHT. IF SHE IS A REAL LIBERAL LIKE THAT AND SHEWAS PLAYING POLITICS, I DIDN'T LOVE THAT SHE PLAYED POLITICS,BUT OKAY, HERE WE ARE, LET'S GO FOR IT. BUT WE WILL GET TO FINDOUT, AND MY GUESS IS THAT SHE WON'T TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY ANDSHE WILL CONTINUE TO DO OLD-SCHOOL POLITICS, AND THECLINTONS LEARNED THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN THEIR MINDS IN FAVOR OFTHE DEATH PENALTY IN ORDER TO WIN IN AMERICA, BUT THAT WAS ACALCULATION MADE DECADES AGO. >>AND IT WAS PROBABLY STUPID THEN. >>BUT TODAY THAT DOES NOT APPLY ANYMORE AFTER WE HAVE RELEASEDSO MANY PEOPLE FROM DEATH ROW, WE ARE GIVING ONE OF DOZENS OFEXAMPLES WHERE SHE COULD BE MORE PROGRESSIVE, BECAUSE IT TURNSOUT THEY WERE INNOCENT, ETC. IT WAS AN EASY WAY, I DID IT, I WASFOR THE DEATH PENALTY AND I SAID WE LET DOZENS OF PEOPLE OF DEATHROW BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THEY ARE INNOCENT, I DON'T WANT TOKILL INNOCENT PEOPLE. HOW EASY IS THAT
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